Nickhere-"Err, does the universe have a point of view? ;-)"

Nope...and that is the point ;>)

(Joe Offer- twins? TWINS?? well...ok, as long as I can be the PRIMEevil twin)


Slag.."None of this can you know until you come to Him with empty arms."

Sorry, mate...but "believing so that you may know" doesn't fit my idea of how to be confident...I prefer "KNOWING so that I may understand what to believe".
   This 'surrender' of the mind to a proposition which has no efficacy unless you decided it does literally means that you can believe ANY claim, including outright lies, and it will "be true for you".

   There are many religions, yet a set of phrases like the ones you post assert that there is only one which is correct.

I am reminded of a line from the writings of Fredrick Nietzsche (translated in various ways)

"...and one old greybeard of a god stood up and announced, "I am the Lord thy God...thou shalt have no other gods before me!"...and all of the other gods died laughing"