Thanks for the comment Peter. I agree with what you said. Noise, music, all the same thing really. Some of it's good, some of it's a real 'stinkaroo'. I remember hearing an eighteen mount old baby who'd found a soup pot and a wooden spoon and found it made noise and then proceeded to pound on it with such joy that it sicerely brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes. I could have listened to that for hours, the kid was just so happy and sincer about the noise (music) he was making. I don't think that that is any different than what I do. I get exactly the same feeling when I'm playing (when I'm playing for the joy of making music and not worried about all the tecky crap that is). Right now I'm so wrapped up in tec stuff. Thanks for reminding me what I do it for. Sincerely, toad