Is "livable wage and benefits" a subjective term?

Bobert:

First you say there are no factories being built in the US So I prove that that is not true.

Then you say "That is not at issue here... What is at issue is that the US economy is not creating manufacturing jobs at the rate to keep up with it's labor pool."

So I prove thet there are unfilled manufacturing jobs and a chart that shows increased manufacturing activity.

Then you start blabbering about guaranteed minimum income again. That is in force in Portugal since 1997 and it don't work. It was tried in Canada ans the US and the programs were cancelled.
From 1974 to 1977, the residents of Dauphin participated in the only Canadian guaranteed annual income (GAI) experiment. The Mincome experiment, as it is known, was one of five projects developed to find out what would happen if people were promised a yearly minimum income. Would people still work?

The projects began during the 1970s when “history was changing in some fundamental ways,â€쳌 says Dr. Evelyn Forget, professor of Economics at the University of Manitoba. “People believed we were just a hair’s breath away from creating a just society.â€쳌

A hopeful young Premier of Manitoba, NDP leader Ed Schreyer, was interested in the concept of the GAI. He and the cabinet RED Committee, dedicated to social justice, secured the province as the Canadian test site. Similar experiments had been undertaken in the U.S. in New Jersey, rural areas of North Carolina and Iowa, Seattle and Denver, and Gary In as part of President Johnson’s “war on poverty.â€쳌
http://www.uniter.ca/view.php?aid=38460

"These things ***have not*** been tried, Dickey.... Or at least not in the good ol' US of A"

Looks to me like they *********have*********Bobert. You need a laxative.