"Then what's this a photo of?" It's a photo of a portion of the building tilting a bit, but still falling downward.

GUEST,(pick a name, any name, but make it different in every thread GUEST starts), has presented us with a whole menu of conspiracy theories on a variety of subjects over the past several months. This is merely another one that said individual wants us to have hissy-fits over.

I smell a troll. A troll with an immense amount of time on his or her hands.

I do entertain the idea that the government may have been involved in the WTC attack, but I need much better evidence than the cut-and-pastes from conspiracy web sites and from other "true believers" that GUEST,(whoever) offers. Many of the so-called scientific or engineering type bits of evidence simply do not stand up to close scrutiny. And some is mere speculation offered as facts and some of it is just outright wrong.

No, GUEST merely has a hobby-horse that he or she is riding. And GUEST responds to those who question his or her "evidence" by accusing them of either being too cowardly to face the horrible "truth" or a government shill and in on the conspiracy.

Now, that, ladies and gentlemen, is not a tactic of legitimate, logical debate. That is a personal attack. And that indicates to me that the person who uses it realizes that he or she is on very shaky ground.

If I ridicule people who use this kind of dodge, it's because I find them ridiculous.

This whole argument is pointless, and diverts attention from real issues—such, perhaps—as serious investigations into what really happened and who might be either responsible or criminally negligent.

Perhaps that's why GUEST is flooding us with conspiracy theories. Now, here's a conspiracy theory for you to contemplate:   GUEST is a government shill whose job it is to spread so many conspiracy theories about the WTO attack that the truth gets lost in all the nonsense. Not unlike the ink-like fluid that an octopus ejects when attacked, so while the attacker goes for the ink, the octopus jets quicky away, undetected.

I'm out of here. This is a waste of time.

Don Firth