When has winning gone from a win, win situation to a no win situation? We were never in a winnig situation to start with. It was an illeagle move from it's start, unjustified & unsupported by other nations. Say what you want but we were all lied to.

Was there ever a winning situation to start with. I don't believe so.
Not from my view.
To push on with an ideal on winning for it's own sake is to spite the face by cutting off the nose. Sure it'll be beyond any pre concived expense & will continue to drive us into bankruptcy not to mention the cost in blood & sure it'll cost us our ____ name & reputation not that we want or care about a good name or rep & sure it's embrassing to lose after pre declaring victory but what the hell "waist deep n he big muddy & the big fool says to push on" so lets keep at it, and when a majority of those in power & the majority of the public says & demands call to home just act the fool & not listen to the votes & the calls. When will it be time to turn? After the nation's so upset that the public feels that they are mute because their nation is deaf & they are no longer reresented or listened to or that the only why to be heard is through some form of revolution. Will it take another revolution before we can be heard again? Is this a win, win situation or should we cut our losses & get out?

Barry