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Thread #101746   Message #2058928
Posted By: InOBU
23-May-07 - 08:00 AM
Thread Name: BS: Bobby Sands hunger strike film
Subject: RE: BS: Bobby Sands hunger strike film
Dear Teribus
Well ... to bring this back to value of film as communication... I see we need a film, not only about Bobby Sands, but about Jillianwalla Baud, where the India which was not brutally suppressed by the British was the site of the unprovoked murder of Shiks by members of the British army, who, following orders machine-gunned a crowd in a plaza ... well, maybe it was provoked, the British had ordered the Shiks to crawl on their bellies in the plaza, and when they did not they were shot. Bangladesh was, once part of the Indian subcontinent, and there in what was India at the time, Lord Ridley, Trivellian (same Trivellian who did not allow famine relief to be given freely in Ireland during the famine) and others gently administered the territory. They burned the cotton fields and destroyed the seeds of the Bangladeshi cotton, a unique cotton, compared to silk, and the source of Bangladesh being the riches territory on the subcontinent. They replaced it with jute, and destroyed the weaving industry, to make sure that the jute was rased to be worked elsewhere, under British control, reducing Bangladesh to the poverty from which it has never recovered. Ridley stated that a united Bangladesh was a threat to British economic domination, and he partitioned Bangladesh, the first time, it was later partitioned by the British again ... gently mind you... Britain behaved in India, very much as they did in Ireland, beginning with the supposition that they were always both right and well intentioned.
The argument that torture justifies torture is simply wrongheaded. It leads to the argument, who started it first? Rather than creating a world where no one tortures, we spend years in fighting the struggle of the last outrage. One does not look at one's own nations role in creating the environment which torture occurred, and does one's duty without thought that you might be serving a government which is committing crime rather than legitimate statesmanship. This is one reason why, I never joined any military, not would I. I went to war with a camera and met with, and spoke to both sides with equal love and attention. I never met the "mad dog" IRA man, bent on killing out of hatred. Rather, I met many young men and women, who were picked up and tortured under the special powers act, and sought a way to end a host of injustices in their nation. I met British soldiers, in the "Troops Out Movement" who for a variety of reasons, worked to end British military involvement in Ireland, some who felt outrages were being committed by their comrades, others who simply felt it was a policy which could not work. I met at least one former Military Intelligence officer, who lost faith in what he was doing, felt it was immoral and based in lies, I met British soldiers who felt they were there, doing the right thing for the right reasons, and desperately wanted to put their lives in the way to bring about peace and kill if they had to, I met Loyalists who felt the violence of other loyalists was wrong, and others who felt it was right. What I have never seen, is a war which was fought for the reasons expressed, including WWII. Not a single death camp was liberated as part of the war plan ... and as soon as the war ended, the US began to protect highly placed nazis to help in the cold war.
Film seems a much better way to bring about understanding and social change, than using bombs, torture, guns, submarines, and all the other tools of war including censorship.

All the best
lor

PS You are right, it was wrong of me to put words in your mouth, and I apologize for that.