Jim,

I am not sorry I started this, it should have read:

Sorry, I started this. The post before mine seemed to doubt my description of collapse and I was just restating it.

Duff singers are a problem for all who run clubs and duff club management is too.

I have been bored sensless in some folk clubs and am too offended my people who cant sing, forget the words and retune guitars while we wait. I guess only being average is hat keeps the average down?

Cheers

Les