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Thread #102128   Message #2066864
Posted By: Peace
02-Jun-07 - 10:20 PM
Thread Name: BS: Texas Governor & Bilderberg Group
Subject: RE: BS: Texas Governor & Bilderberg Group
My remark, btw, referred to no one on Mudcat.

LH, a few years back I posted a link to the research from a prof at Harvard. He traced mentions of the term New World Order and followed it back about 100 years. He documented his sources, as an academic would, and his research was excellent. To deny that the term is used is stupid. To suggest that the term would be used all on its own with no groups actually working to bring about such an end is also stupid.

Hell, I know I should be less outspoken and find better terms/other words for 'stupid'. But ya know, I am fed up with foolish dismissals--crap like 'tin-foil hat'--so really I can't be arsed to find the other words just now.

The Bilderberg group: They represent serious money. So, clubs form. It's people who have a common interest. Namely money and the power to control things with that money. Fair enough. However, let's have a serious look at a few things. They have heavy security at their meetings, regardless of the country they have the meetings in. Security is not provided by 'rent-a-cop' outfits. It is provided on the taxpayers' bills because that security is provided by police, soldiers, agents of various clandestine outfits that work for the governments involved. WTF? All folk festivals with ten times that number of people get are some police officers (who keep an eye on things and are more concerned about giving directions and crowd control than about being body guards). These guys and a few gals are not representing us. They are representing their fuckin' money, so why is their protection done at our expense? Fair enough that people joined together by a common interest get together for a few beers and a couple nights out. And of course they have the right to talk about whatever the heck they want and either tell folks or not, as they so choose. BUT, if the topic of their conversations is gaining control of markets or economies, they are in breach of several international laws and many more national ones, depending on their countries of origin.

So what the hell does that mean? It means that all we can see and know about the Bilderbergers has to be inferred from who goes to the meetings--and that can be and IS documented--and their respective moves to other organizations. Surely folks are aware of Wolfowitz's appointment as head of the World Bank (and his subsequent fall from grace). Read his biography. He is a brilliant man, very intelligent, and his accomplishments for many years were geared to peace and after-war recovery of people. He is an admirable man. Or, IMO, was, until he became Sec Def and let the devil have his soul. Had the US been serious about stuff in this world, the best placement for Wolfowitz would have been the Middle East where his mission could have been to bring peace to the region. He was well-respected in Indonesia, so he understands things from a Muslim perspective (Indonesia is I think the largest Muslim country in the world). He also understands Israel. So, where's he go? Of course, the friggin' World bank.

The mission of the World Bank is a righteous one--at least on the surface. The organization was established just after WWII, and much like the UN in original intent, it's efforts were honourable. They have access to lots of money, and they are charged with the responsibility of using that money in a manner that helps countries bring better things into their lives. So, of course, I'd want to ask this question: Exactly who the fuck have they helped lately? WTF have they helped in years? No doubt some yahoo is gonna post a few links and say, "This is who." Good, because then I'll track the companies that got the contracts to advise or do the skilled work in the countries thaey helped. That in itself is often an education.

Lemme ask this: Halliburton. They are a skilled company, very rich is both cash and assets. So how did they get away with serving MREs at $18.00 each to soldiers in Iraq? Nice work if you can get it. Of course, too, I guess if I had an in with the former CEO of that company, and I had the desire to make a few bucks on a war that conveniently arose--hell, why not? And for friggin' sure Halliburton made money. Kind of the American taxpayer to help 'em along. Oh, true, they weren't asked, but they likely would have said yes anyway because the troops gotta eat. And the war was well-sold in the first year. I would wonder if any Bilderbergers are high-up in Halliburton, or perhaps on the board. Naw, not likely is it?

And of course the final question that I hope someone answers. Oil is the key to producing energy. Energy is the key to manufacturing. As a total figure, I'd wonder what percent of say the US manufacturing business--the WHOLE thing--was enriched by the Iraq War. Because sure as sheep get sheared, the taxpayer has paid lots for a war and they didn't get too much back in terms of cash for their expenditure. I think the war has cost the USA about half a trillion dollars. Or more specifically the taxpayers. So which companies made a few bucks, and how many of those companies are friends with Bush/Cheney, and how many have representation at the Bilderbergers meetings? That's just a wild guess, because I'm sure the answer would be none. I suspect otherwise, but that's brought on by the hat I wear. It's tinfoil.