LH: I know wher you're at with this stuff. Please know that only "LH, a few years back I posted a link to the research from a prof at Harvard. He traced mentions of the term New World Order and followed it back about 100 years. He documented his sources, as an academic would, and his research was excellent. To deny that the term is used is stupid. To suggest that the term would be used all on its own with no groups actually working to bring about such an end is also stupid.

Hell, I know I should be less outspoken and find better terms/other words for 'stupid'. But ya know, I am fed up with foolish dismissals--crap like 'tin-foil hat'--so really I can't be arsed to find the other words just now."

that was for you. The rest is for others. I think you know this stuff already.

Please also note that on a thread about outsourcing the American Presidency (to save cash), I posted that the word was 'Shatner has the job'. You, knowing Shatner better than even Shatner knows Shatner--well, would you care to comment?