"It is the music and community that is important, not the place".

Absolutely Dave, I don't think anyone would argue with that.

So, if we accept that Good and Thriving Clubs are the minority what can be done to improve those clubs that are not so successful?

Dave cites a closed singaround circle as being a problem he encountered. Perhaps this would have been better if it were more horseshoe shaped or perhaps two sides or a corner. The point being to face outwards as much as possible and to appear more inviting to incomers.

Also of course make the playing and/or singing as polished as possible. This point I address to the central bunch of singers/musos. If you are able to attract newcomers you may have to accept that they may not be as expert as the "residents" but their effort should be applauded as encouragement to progress and improve.

The above may only make slight improvements but would be a step in the right direction.

Dave