The USA is virtually the only society in the world (outside of a few iron-handed military dictatorships) where it's commonly considered a bad thing to be a "liberal". (Little Hawk)

In Germany and Austria, to be a "liberal" is also commonly considered a bad thing. The "Liberale" are the right wing parliamentary fringe in both countries. If pressed very hard, I'd rather vote for the Christian conservatives than for our Liberals.

The Bilderberg group exists. ... To deny that is to be stupid. To deny that the term (New World Order) has been being used for over a century is also to be stupid. (Peace)

That's a straw man argument. No one does that. The opposition is to what is read into these terms. The term "Jewish world conspiracy" has been with us for even more than 100 years. Does that make it a valid concept?

It is always the same Guest starting these threads under new names. He comes from the lunatic fringe of the extreme political Right, in my opinion. But I could be wrong with that guess from my experiences over here. These conspiracies are a pet theme for our Neonazis.

Such wacko ideas only detract from real threats.

I can't see much wrong in principle with the idea of multinational think tanks in times of global threats (climate, terrorism, WMDs, economy,...). I see much wrong with the way our leaders often deal with these problems, but if they want to deal with them, informal talks can be one way.

Wolfgang