Manny in this particular case you are the flamer. property can be about morals too,People can own property,if they own that property and leave it empty for years and years[Centre Point in london]they are behaving without morals ,because they are contributing to the homeless situation.It is their property, they have a legal right to do what they want with it,but they are still acting without moral consideration. that is also my assessment of Celtic Music[though their treatment of Mick Tems gives us hope]. Whether Diane is or is not the biggest flamer on mudcat, does not give you the right to flame.