Generally, I agree w/ AC, although I might not express my thoughts in exactly the same way. I will give it one more try & post to "The Way Mudcat Used to Be" tonight. I'm sorry Mudcat's in such a state that this thread was felt to be needed. There are at least 2 points of view here. Both deserve to be heard, but only in polite forms.

best to all, but losing patience w/ some,

bbc