I do always welcome the debate even though I had hoped that the thread would give a strong and clear message and that the flamers would receive little or no enouragement in it.

I don't suppose I should have really expected Mudcatters to agree on anything and I seem to have received a lot of answers to questions I didn't ask. Oh well. My guitar playing may now improve a little?

It seem to be in the nature of Mudcatters to stuggle to find some good in the most obvious flamer and to look and find some bad in the most well-intentioned post?

Thanks again Roger.