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Thread #99746   Message #2073234
Posted By: Big Mick
10-Jun-07 - 07:40 PM
Thread Name: BS: Poverty in the USA
Subject: RE: BS: Poverty in the USA
Not trolling for reactions, eh? Let's take a look at these quotes from AWG:

Ah heck, I was just trying to cut the union members some slack. The truth is they are ALL lazy, each and every danged one of them. One giant group of lazy dog f***ers, looking to do as little as possible, for as much money as possible. Oh yeah, and do whatever they like because they know they will never be fired by the poor, poor company that gets saddled with them. I can't believe you people who feel bad for poor people actually defend these union 'workers' (and I use the term loosely).


If you are in a union, you are most likely lazy, but there is no guarantee of that, you might be one of the few who actually breaks a sweat. Why the heck do you think companies fight like hell to keep them out ??!!


Can poor people be taught to save?? Some maybe, but most...of course not. Theyr'e too busy whining about being poor, while making excuse after excuse not to get a job. How can you teach omeone to save when they dont even want to work ??


Janie has issues, serious issues (plus a thing for Barry, apparently),


And this is from a cursory run through. I am sure I could find plenty more. You have a bad habit of making gratuitous assertions, blanket statements, etc.

The fact of the matter is that union members in the States are some of the most productive workers. It is because of their apprenticeship and training programs. Folks with an agenda rely on stereotypes to make their point. You throw around gratuitous assertions which can just as easily be denied. How about you come up with some cites on union members? Or aren't you interested in the facts?   If it weren't for the unions and their members fighting for healtcare and pensions, who would? If it were not for the unions and their members fighting for safe working conditions, who would? If it weren't for the unions fighting to protect the rights of injured workers, who would? Unions and their members aren't perfect. But they do have representation and rights. And they act in a concerted way. What management sycophants don't want to acknowledge is that without collective action, we would revert right back to the "black ball", company store type system we once had. In fact, after years of Republican controls, we have already started.

While you are at it, perhaps you could justify your comment about Janie and Barry.

You seem to me to be long on unsubstantiated comments, and ideas but short on any substance.

Just my opinion.

Mick