Peace, my friend, I am not trying to hijack the thread. Janie introduced unions as a solution to poverty, and also she criticized. She asked me to pop in and lend my perspective, given that I have been a Union Organizer for the best part of 30 years.

I was our buddy AWG that made an assertion I just couldn't let stand.

But I will return to lurking and only jump in if I feel the need.

Mick