And, ahhhhhhhh, let's get beyond the root causes... They are too debatable and the debate is not that all constructive on what we can do about remedies...

It's kinda like being told you have cancer... Do you want to delve into what might have caused it or how to treat it... After over a thousand posts I believe we have beat around the "causes" bush enough for that discusssion to no longer be helpful...

Face it, poverty in this wealthy nation is a national disgrace... It is one thing that folks from other countries look at about the US and just have to shake their cellective heads as to why our collective "value" system allows, even rationalizes why it isn't their problem, poverty...

No, it is a disgrace... And it hurts us not only domestically but in the eys of folks who think that we represent some kind of role model... Yeah, we do get a lot of things right but on poverty??? We get an F...

It is a disgrace...

I could no longer care less to trace it's every meandering path... We have it and it's a disgrace...

I have proposed a way to alleviate it...

I have show how to pay for it...

Okay, my proposals are "large brush strokes" variety but that is what it is going to take...

Janie talks about how folks run like "pigs from a gun" when we get to discussing "values"... She is right when it comes to those who beieve that the status quo is just peachy... Or those who are not willing to put their values on record but would rather just attack those of us who have been perfectly willing to step to the plate...

Everyone here knows who is on each team...

So, screw root causes... We have a problem and we need a cure...

Plus, Einstien said that a problem cannot be solved with the same consciencness that created it...

Bobert