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Thread #102414   Message #2077566
Posted By: Piers
15-Jun-07 - 04:10 AM
Thread Name: BS: Anyone still a socialist/communist?
Subject: RE: BS: Anyone still a socialist/communist?
In Cuba, wealth production is based on capital and wage labour. Most of the citizens have only their labour to sell as a commodity while a minority control the means of production. In Cuba, they have all the essential requirements of capitalism. Workers are exploited in Cuba, just as we are in the UK. Cuba is a hierarchical society just like the UK. They have money, banks, secret police, just like 'the West'. It is a capitalist society. Workers go on strike in Cuba, there are prostitutes in Cuba, there are thieves in Cuba.

Socialism/communism, is social/common ownership, as in possession, as in control and thus democratic, not in the capitalist sense of electing leaders but in the sense of everybody participating in running their workplaces, their community and their lives.

Fidel Castro can call himself a communist, he can call himself Marilyn Monroe, but it doesn't make it true. Once you pick up gun, once you set yourself outside the rest of the working class as a vanguard to bring about the revolution on behalf of others, once you call yourself a leader, then you have stepped outside the socialist/communist tradition.