Yeh we all know Waterson Carthy play well to their contituency, and we know how vocal and and zealous that costituency are.

The basic problem as I see it is this:-

I was in Weymouth the other week at the folk festival and I stood in the shopping mall watching the morris dancers. They were nice people. Encapsulating everything nice about middle class English people playing silly buggers. However the passing people were about as involved and as embarassed, as if the Hare Krishna lot were doing their bit.

Now are you going to kid these kids that theres a place for them in the highly subsidised world of Waterson/Carthy, or are you going to break the habits of a lifetime and get honest about the situation? A situation YOU have brought about, through decades of intellectual dishonesty. A folk culture which alienates 90% of the folk is a blatant absurdity.