Now you know how I feel Mbo. That, with a few appropriately modified words is exactly what the compassionate and insightful Beanster wrote, sentence structure etc are all exactly as written. Would compassion really lead someone to say "They are miserable. And there is a nice amount of poetic justice in that." Who is bullying who here? Beanster is hiding her/his vindictive teeth under a bale of reasonable sounding mumbo jumbo. So read with care.

I'm sorry if I upset you with my original post, clearly I was in a bad mood. Using personal experiences in a discussion is necessary and vital but you need to make the bridge between the general and the specific. Bring your experiences into the ring yourself without always making people come to you. Then the sharing gets better.