Well, first one as an adult with the violin (does that count?) was for a church service, with my brother, the genius pianist. We were performing Ave Maria, so I had lots of opportunities to use the WHOLE bow, in those long, full notes. Only problem was, I was so nervous, it sounded like I was doing vibrato on EVERY note, in every passage; people could actually see my knees knocking together! In my mind, I kept hearing the old song my mom and dad would sing about "dancing with the dolly with the hole in her stockin' and her knees keep a'knockin'!" Don't know how I made it through it. From then on, I just used my voice for any *real* gigs. Might be a change in that soon, thanks to the Mudcat.