I've seen knotters similar to what John posted and they do work. I just never got into using knots, esp. with the wire I use.

Maggie, I can't find the contact sheet of the professional photos I had taken. I had just found them, recently, and put them somewhere "safe" wouldn't ya know?!*smile* I will scan and post when I find them. IN the meantime, I have a personal totem necklace which I will try to scan and a couple of others. They aren't really what I would consider representative of what I did for folks, on a professional level, though, as they are personal designs for myself.

It's been fun to have this thread come up, again. Thanks!