It would have been about 20 months ago. I waited for a break between songs and asked whether it was ok to come in. This was met with a seemingly grudging 'yes, but as long as you don't do A,B and C' - the implication being that I wouldn't have the manners or intelligence to behave correctly.

I listened to a song or two between which people chatted together as a little group to the exclusion of me the visitor. It felt rather as if I was disturbing a small and close group so I felt it was time to go.

May just have been me but it was during a week where I had been to Swinton and Wigan folk clubs on the other nights and had a rather more welcoming and inclusive resompne from the other places I went.

As I said earlier it was an honest observation of how I felt and may be as much or more about me than you.