...And then there's the guy who didn't have a pick, so he played loud and furiously with an old style pull-off tab from a beer can. He scratched the top of my Guild pretty good. I think that was the closest I've ever been to wanting to physically attack somebody, but he was holding my guitar. Possibly material for another thread. I didn't notice his grip, and I doubt if there is a correct grip for a beer can tab! (I still loan my guitars, confident that 99% of guitar players have at least SOME common sense).