"The thing is, BB, I don't know who (on the public record) is lying and who isn't...nor does anyone else here."


Absolutely valid- But I do not know if all those people who talk about things happening before I was born are lying, either. Nor can I know that ANYTHING is true, even if I see it myself- "they " could be feeding false information directly into my optic nerve.

If you are going to claim that it MUST be false because you do not trust the government, then please state what you CAN trust- so I can show how they are (possibly) no more true to the facts.


And we certainly cannot have a discussion of the facts that makes any sense when there is NO agreement on those facts- Not the interpretation of them, but the FACTS THEMSELVES. To say that the 757 did NOT hit the Pentagon is like saying the sun did not rise today in Japan: There is a burden of proof that has NOT been met before the statement will be accepted.