I didn't miscount anything, Diane, I understood that you were saying that she is qualified in Irish traditional singing, and I was agreeing with you there.

Irish traditional singing does include a fair amount of ornamentation, though styles from different areas of Ireland differ. I would not say that Cara goes overboard on her ornamentaion.

If you do not like her style of singing that is fine, but there is no need to ridicule either the singer or the style.

>...we're talking about a workshop for WOMAD here, not a 'mess around at Cambridge for beginners'. And your point is what? That Cara is not qualified? But you stated above that she is, and as she is wading knee-deep in grace notes you obviously agree that she has the technique to contribute to a workshop on vocal tecnniques.