John: I have no trouble accepting this:

"Lots of creationists (probaby the majority) believe also in evolution. The arguement here is somewhere else, and the line demarking victory in this tug'o'war is whether there was design or merely random chance. And on that one, neither side is any closer to being drawn over the line in defeat.

And it is that kind of dogmatism that has led to stalemates such a Texas ... "

But I don't think this does answer my question - which was, what science teachers are actually telling kids in the classroom - as opposed to what someone may say anonymously on an internet forum. And I'm not convinced that there are not a substantial number of science teachers who actually believe in a Supreme Being, whether or not they buy into anything remotely like the conventional creation story.

I don't doubt that there are competing dogmatisms, but I just question whether it is the science teachers themselves that are so dogmatic on one side of the debate. Of course, as I say, you're much closer to the situation than I am.