Captain - we understand that you're a Vin fan. No one is denying - he is a good whistle player. he has an onstage personality that has made him an idol to thousands.

However we are allowed to feel moral repugnance at his point of view on this issue.

It certainly a bandwagon because it will assure him of a certain constiuency. I'm not saying he needs it - but its certainly there.

" How do you know that Vin wants to disempower vulnerable women that want abortions?"

Because that will be the consequences of people joining one of the many pressure groups that espouse his point of view and mounting a successful campaign - as the 'moral majority' types alrewady have in the States.

how do I know its not human rights that motivates him. perhaps because of the mad bastard gleam in the eye of adherents of this point of view. Bush himself, and that bugger on death row for putting bombs under the cars of doctors.

only spiritual insight confers that sort of moral certainty.