"Turtles all the way down" has not yet been mentioned in this thread,
but as I see it, belief is belief and science is science and maybe never
the twain shall meet, and that is OK. Hopefully, facts will inform
people's belief and belief systems will become less destructive (less violence,
less repression, less terrorism).

After finishing a lecture on the orbits of galaxies and planets, a scientist was
challenged by a lady in the audience who affirmed that the earth is a flat plate
on the back of a giant turtle. "What is the turtle standing on?" he asked.
"Very clever young man, but it is turtles all the way down." This story has been
quoted in different ways, sometimes using the Indian idea of the earth on a
tiger on an elephant on turtles, and even used by Stephen Hawking in his book
A Brief History of Time.

People who have faith in a belief will believe it in spite of anything science says
about that belief. I am fascinated with the way people believe what they believe.

In relating the turtle story to intelligent design, the "turtle question" is, "where did
the designer come from? Who designed the designer, or is it designers all the way down?"