weelittledrummer
While I disagree with what you say on this particular subject, I think we have a lot in common otherwise. I gave up organising in 1995 because the club had lost its political bite. It became a friendly ( read twee) night out with very little challenge and too many sentimental love songs. I found myself an outsider in my own club!

PMB
I think you are right, the starting point for argument is the extent of abortion. A return to the backstreet scenario would be dreadful.