Im usually up till at least 6am though that may change shortly. I have a change in my ISP deal which means I have 24hrs free internet access (ISP and phone call) rather than just the off peak hours so I might go back to more normal hours instead of trying to get the most out of my free internet time. There again, maybe not - most people I chat with seem to be on my sort of odd hours because of the time zones... I reckon the hours I keep at the moment would probably be right for living somewhere in the middle of the US.Jon (the Vampire)