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Thread #103615   Message #2115874
Posted By: heric
31-Jul-07 - 03:51 PM
Thread Name: BS: The End of Science in Texas...
Subject: RE: BS: The End of Science in Texas...
"When we deal with the supernatural world, observation, reason and analysis are ineffectual and inappropriate tools for they cannot penetrate through the wall or make sense of the metaphysical world of mythology, doctrine or belief in a god figure. . . . Theologians, priests and metaphysicians have after many millenia of struggle, failed to design any methodology or tool that can lead them to new understanding or knowledge of the supernatural and metaphysical world."

Take this a step further if you will, and consider whether your thoughts / consciousness is part of the natural or supernatural world. (Natural, right?) Even with the most modern tools showing increased levels of electrochemical activity in certain regions of the brain associated with different matters such as emotions, the truth, as I see it, is that there has been no zero nada scientific progress in explaining the "mind" and its essence. The physics of electrochemistry doesn't do it. So the best case scenario for your position is that the scientists and the theologians, priest and metaphysicians are on an equal footing. Tie score.

"Mind is like no other property of physical systems. It is not just that we don't know the mechanisms that give rise to it. We have difficulty seeing how any mechanism can give rise to it." – Eric Harth, Ph.D., Syracuse University (1986). (Apparently he is now looking at quantum theory without any progress.)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14319393.700-quantum-states-of-mind-most-biologists-believe-the-answerto-what-make-us-consciuos-lies-buried-in-brain-cells-and-their-chemistryjohn-mccrone-talks-to-the-mavericks-who-prefer-to-look-for-clues-in-quantumphysics-.html