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Thread #103638   Message #2117865
Posted By: The Sandman
02-Aug-07 - 08:38 PM
Thread Name: The Morris Ring - know this organization's health?
Subject: RE: The Morris Ring - know this organization's health?
SNAIL.I said if a Morris side[that makes my question hypothetical].
your last question,As regards the situation in the 1970s,yes I have asked women,and the reason was because they wanted to dance and were not allowed to dance with men,some of the morris ring members were hostile and threatened to report teams to the ring,who allowed women to dance with them, so they formed womens sides.
women have that choice now,but that choice was not available until they formed womens sides,The Morris ring was denying them the right to dance with men.[the freedom of association argument,should not have disallowed women rights]
supposing the Morris ring had at that time,not allowed a Dancer to be part of a team,on racial grounds,would that have been ok.
the reason women dance in womens sides now, may have altered,but could still be partly affected by morris history,and the PAST hostility from the Morris Ring.
Your Second Question is in my opinion silly,but since you want my opinion[probably so you can score points in a discussion]I would say that all the time ,Male Morris ring sides insist on preventing women from dancing in a team with them,it has got to be o k,for women sides to do likewise,what is sauce for the Gander is sauce for the Goose .
It is clear from contributors to this discussion,that the Morris Ring has become much more liberal in its views.,and that the old attitude is dying away quickly.
LES b has said that there is an opinion being expressed,that eventually as the old guard retire and numbers of active dancers fall that the Fed and the Ring will merge,.
As the fed have 405 members and the ring 152,the merger could be because of the Morris Rings health, They are standing at about 28 PERCENT.
I have learned a lot from this discussion,and am pleased to hear that a lot of the old reactionary, anti women attitudes are disappearing.