So true, Bill. Merely the arguments that you and I have had here over various arcane subjects would suffice to fill several volumes by now, and could reduce both Plato and Socrates to tears, I expect! ;-) (though whether it would be tears of despair or of laughter is a moot point...)

As for the MOAB, forget it. No one is insane enough to try and analyze that. It has become a tiny club for the terminally verbose and Shatnerless types who lurk at the fringes of society, desperately hoping against hope that something they say or do actually matters.