Oh - BTW - an interesting comparison using your comment about the Saw Doctors - I only saw them once, at the Manchester Apollo, and thought they were OK but too loud! Funnily enough, at Fylde, I saw the Albion band who who were equaly loud but, with Mr Hutchins influence, the bass WAS rattling my fillings. I enjoyed that more! Just shows - one mans meat etc:-)

Cheers

Dave