I'd like to thank you, Beanster, you pointed out something which I was not fully aware of. The part about kids needing to serarate from parents etc...that was easy for me, as, my father was never around, and my mother worked all the time with little or no time for me. My separation was automatic so, I had no need to "rebel". So, you usually enjoy my posts? good. Its so hard to start a row without resorting to insulting someone!!! LOL