The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #103969   Message #2124858
Posted By: Charley Noble
13-Aug-07 - 08:09 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Coal Black Rose
Subject: RE: Origins: Coal Black Rose
Evidently my post about other minstrel songs being adapted for shanties or forebitters went into the Great Mudcat Black Hole. Too bad! It was a wonderful list. But not to worry! I evidently kept a copy:

We should be keeping a list of how many minstrel songs came aboard and were transformed into shanties or forebitters.

Coal Black Rose

Get Up, Jack, John Sit Down

Round the Corner Sally

Doodle Let Me Go

Miss Lucy Long

Gimme de Banjo

Hilo, Boys, Hilo

And I can't resist a note on "Hilo" which in some shanties is a reference to a favorite port in Western South America but this version is unrelated to that seaport town being transcribed by one curious observor much earlier from a plantation field song:

Oh, this is the day to roll and go,
Hill-up, boys, hilo;
Oh, this is the day to roll and go,
Hill-up, boys, hilo!

It's also of interest that such "nautical" phrases as "roll and go" and "rock and roll" first appeared in the plantation field songs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble