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Thread #103969   Message #2124876
Posted By: Q (Frank Staplin)
13-Aug-07 - 08:32 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Coal Black Rose
Subject: RE: Origins: Coal Black Rose
Only the English pronounce the port in the chantey Hilo correctly- they can't pronounce an aiche and leave it off.

Charley, the English had that sense of rock in 1297 (printed). Roll in the nautical sense probably just as old- nautical usages from the 16th c. in the OED.
These words have been used in so many ways, both verb and noun, that they cover pages in the OED.