Gee, it's funny how different ways of doing things can complicate matters. I always use the Windows clipboard to extract tunes from the forum and save them as files. I do this by highlighting the text of the tune only (for example, in my post above, start with the line "% input file miditune\buryover.mid" and highlight down through the body of the music, but not the ending comment "I'm not familiar..."), pressing ctrl-C to copy, then switching to my programmer's editor application and pasting the clipboard contents into a new or existing file (I keep one called mudcat.abc around for this purpose). Then I write the file to disk, fire up ABC2Win (or just PlayQABC in DOS) and play the tune. To make sure this method would work for those not blessed with a programmer's editor, I tried it with MS Word 6.0, and by saving the file as "text only" with an .abc extension, it worked fine. The only problem I have is that somehow each subsequent line after the first begins with a space which I have to delete before saving the file. Also, rarely there is a line which wraps around on the forum screen, so when I copy and paste, it creates a new line where it shouldn't. This happened above with the line that starts out "32nd-notes..." I had to put that part back up on the previous line by deleting the carriage return. When I did that, the tune displayed in ABC2Win and played perfectly. Before I did, I got some error boxes but just pressed "continue" each time and the tune came up with an extra measure at the beginning (ABC2Win was interpreting the extraneous line as music), but still was playable. Bruce, if your ABC2Win can't handle comments (% lines) and the other things, maybe you need a later version. Mine (version 2.1 f) didn't have any problem with them.