Giok, the values I spoke of - reward for hard work, loyalty and selflessness, were destroyed during The Bitches Reign Of Terror Over The Ordinary Man. She and her lackeys encouraged, nay inspired, the selfish, 'Me-First And Fuck You' attitudes we see so much of today.

And yes, New Labour ** spit** has completely failed to address that problem - mainly, I guess, because 'New Labour' is Conservatism hiding behind a New Name.

I lived through it, as did you. You know I'm right. :-)