OK for a start you pay what you have to pay. Now if everybody did exactly that and the thousands of sterling working class souls did not defraud the benefits sytems all would be well. Now all you valiant left-wingers out there, if you would just acknowledge that all would be well. Unfortunately you don't you will always find ample excuses for one and find only utter condemnation for the other.

Now let's get this straight, the Vestey family's chain of butcher shops "paid £10.00 (yes that is ten pounds) on profits of £2.3 million in 1978." Sorry Folkiedave I don't believe you - best you come up with some very hard evidence to support your statement.

Now just to hammer logic a bit if a tax loophole exists it exists for the rich and poor alike - True? It either exists in law or it does not, and as such is available to the rich and poor alike.

To examine some of your other statements:

"The Vestey Family who owned a huge slice of Britain's meat industry from the farms and processing plants in Argentina"

If it is located in Agentina, it is not really "Britain's" meat industry is it Folkiedave? And that being the case why should it be subject to British tax? Please explain? You obviously seem to think that it should. It would be interesting to hear your views on this because it doesn't and you damn well know that it doesn't.

"through their refrigerated ships that brought the meat to Britain"

Now Folkiedave these ships, are they owned by the Vestey family? Are they flagged under the "Red Ensign"? If the answer to either question Folkiedave is No then the profits made are not liable to UK Tax - True?

Now let's see
"Their chain of butchers's shops paid £10.00 (yes that is ten pounds) on profits of £2.3 million in 1978."

We are talking almost thirty years ago, during the term of a properly constituted Labour Government as recognised as being such by the looney-left i.e yourself, Stigweard and Backwoodsman. Now this £2.3 million, was that turn-over? pre-tax profit? or post tax profit? From your post it would seem to indicate pre-tax profit, at a time when corporation tax stood at what level? 50%? And under the watchful eye of a Labour government they paid only £10? Now if that were the case, and I don't believe it for one second, who exactly is at fault here Folkiedave, the Vestey Family for using the legal means at their disposal or the Labour Government for failing to collect whatever tax is due. In 1978 compare what Tax should have been collected against what actually was and I believe that you will find that the Vesteys were not those who defrauded the British Exchequer the most.

Hey Folkiedave start dealing with those troublesome facts, stop peddling the usual left-wing propaganda. I remember when you trotted out the so called fact that Rumsfeld went to Baghdad to sell arms and I proved quirte conclusively that he did not. Now if I explode this latest left wing myth of yours you will:

1) Have the honesty to admit it

2) Refrain from posting such complete and utter crap on this forum ever again.