.....incredibly low if they were translated to equivalent big cities in some countries where legal gun possession is widespread. McGrath of Harlow.

But what does that mean, Kevin. By implication you seem to think that legal gun ownership is the cause of the high crime. That is a simplistic view and not a correct comparison. For example, it doesn't answer why areas of high legal gun ownership per capita seem to have the lowest violent crime rates. It is the areas that have the high amounts of illegally obtained guns that have high crime.

Mick