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Thread #104674   Message #2146946
Posted By: GUEST,Fascinated(UK)
11-Sep-07 - 11:13 PM
Thread Name: Paying to have open mike session
Subject: RE: Paying to have open mike session
Hi all,interesting discussion.From the posts it seems:
1)The PRS licence premises where money is being made from music-that answers the initial poster's quote.Bit of a bummer for that landlord,but presumably it covers all their music-barTV or incidental radio,tax-deductable of course.Some rich person might want to argue it out under Human Rights if his clientele are denied freedom of expression if he stops coughing up.

2)In many decades of session playing traditional&modern 'folk' in PRS licenced places I've never been asked for a list of tunes and from the posts there seems no obligation to do so.How,then, do they know who to pay the 1.5p's to?I can't avoid the conclusion that,after deducting a slice for themselves,for their own convenience they pay say,10% to Sir Paul,2.5% to Bono,1%to Cole Porter's estate etc..etc.
Would it ever occur to them to bung,for example: A.Cutting,J.Kirkpatrick,J.C.Frank's estate(all probably paid up members)or that they are collecting cash on behalf of Jane in the local ceilidh band,whose one tune that I knock out regularly does not warrant outlay of £100?

3)Right or wrong?:
It appears they really would expect a place selling coffee etc. to cough up even if it were dedicated entirely to performing Child(traditional) ballads.Even not making money and putting the onus on the premises to prove they are not.

4)To Anahata,excellent commentary,as ever.Do I read you right?
i.e.If I perform traditional stuff I become the arranger and therefore should consider paying PRS £100 and make a list each time in order to collect dosh for my amateur pastime.Did you have to get your return endorsed by the licence holder?what sort of money are we talking about?

NB: a)not being facetious,facet..er,taking the piddle
b)If anyone does comment please avoid allusions to recorded work-it's a different issue.
Regards F(UK)