Who hates doctors? The main reason for wanting a proper health service might be for the sake of the patients, but making things better for the medical workers is another pretty strong reason.

You find very few doctors in European countries who would want to go over to the American way of medicine. And that wouldn't just be because they care about their patients, it'd also be because they care about themselves.

If there's any hate around in this thread it seems to be directed, rightly or wrongly, at some of the people running your Insurance Companies.

Where do these fantasies about how doctors must lose out in a proper health service come from? Or, if it's a matter of your reforms actually being designed in a such as way that they would lose out, I'd suspect that has to mean they have been designed precisely in order to look bad - because that just ain't how it works out in other systems.