Mbo--30 inches isn't so big. They're really very comfortable. I got paint all over my 36-inch bellbottoms, so they're not really presentable enough for a date, otherwise I would be wearing those. Of course, I might still, since I seriously doubt that I'll have a date. . . Don't knock bellbottoms till you've worn them yourself, m' boy--most comfortable pants ever--I know I swear by them. No shorts for me. . . and no "fertile writhing" either--sounds like something earthworms do in a compost pile. . .

Peace--Keli