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Thread #105621 Message #2176803
Posted By: PoppaGator
22-Oct-07 - 06:06 PM
Thread Name: Origins of Samhain
Subject: RE: Origins of Samhain
My paternal grandparents, who both died before I was born, were born and raised in rural County Mayo, Ireland, not emigrating (first to Liverpool and then to New York / New Jersey) until after they had married, in 1912.
The (modernized) version of that "penny/ha'penny" rhyme, as my father remembered from family tradition, went like this:
Christmas is coming The goose is getting fat Who'll put a penny in the old man's hat? If you haven't got a penny A ha'penny will do If you haven't got a ha'penny, God Bless You!
In this form, obviously, the little poem is associated with Christmas/Yuletide, not Halloween/All-Saints/All-Souls/Samhain, which comes a bit later in the year.
For Americans and others not in the know: a "ha'penny" is a half-penny, and the pronounciation (as I learned it, anyway) is "hay-penny."