I'm familiar with a lot of this, Carol. I think the Palestinians got a horrible deal. You could refer folks to read some of the writings of the late Edward Said to get some thoughtful and balanced discussion. NPR and PBS are the next best thing to scholars like Said, hands down.

That said, this will be my last post on this thread. Because what I see here is Don and others bending over backwards trying to politely engage you in a discussion in which you will not move one jot. Not one tittle. You dismiss anything that isn't exactly your view of the world. (I can be accused of this also, but I make sure to cite some damned good and authoritative sources to keep me company, not this vague dismissal of everything--like we need to take your word for it that what you know is "fact.") And we all know what happens when people openly challenge you on your opinions. You go ballistic and the thread goes down the drain. You and I agree on many things, but your methods of arguing points are as closed-minded as anything O'Reilly can come up with, you're like mirror opposites in many ways. Which makes your arguments as hard to swallow as his.

Okay, I just carried this match into the firework stand. And I'm outta here.

SRS