Hey Jon Freeman; just wanted to say, reading your thread and mentioning those townsin Northern Wales made me very misty-eyed!!! I spent three days there a few years back, in Llandudno, then Conwy, just hiking around and hanging out and I took LOTS of photographs...it is simply beautiful there and I think of it often...
that place on the pier in Conwy; I wonder if I went there in 1988...i got some fabulous fish and chips from a small cafe and then went to the pier where I saw people on holiday (lots of kids) and some of them were drinking stout...so I noticed the pub opened right onto the pier and I went and grabbed the perfect accompaniment to my hot meal...mmmmmm...nothing like a tall pint and some crispy, salty, greasy, delicious fish and chips eaten by the sea...i don't know if there was any folk music happening...it didn't matter, the sound of the waves and the people having a lovely time was enough, even on that chilly, misty day in July...

peg