Carol, I posted those links as examples of the range of information than can be found on the internet, good, bad, and indifferent—not as support for what I believe myself. I could have posted an even wider range, but as I have said, I have other things to do. One can find support for just about anything one wants if one keeps looking until one finds it—even Flat-Earthers.

I agree with most of the things you post. I thank you for posting the link at the top of this thread. And the ones for Dennis Kucinich and Naomi Wolf. Whether you like it or not, you and I are on the same side!

But—you are exhibiting the same kind of self-defeating behavior that I encountered when I attended my neighborhood Democratic Party caucus prior to the 2004 election, and continue to encounter in a percentage of people who have an active interest in politics. That is, if we were in general agreement, but we didn't agree on absolutely every detail, they tracked me all over the room, cornering me, and trying to convince me that I had to be simple-minded if I didn't agree with them—on that one point! People like this seem to consider you in the camp of the enemy unless you agree with them on everything. The result is that they wind up losing more converts to their cause than they gain.

You think NPR and/or PBS "lied" to you about the Camp David negotiations, and because of that, you try to put them into the same box as Fox News. I don't see it that way (and I do speak with some direct experience with news departments). On this matter, I think you are wrong. And you think I'm wrong. We do agree on many things. But not on this.

I believe this is one of these issues where we must agree to disagree and let it go at that.

I will not be back to this thread.

Don Firth