Don Firth is exactly right, Carol. You provide some good information, but since your mind is set in stone on this issue, you think everybody with any sense must agree with you 100%.   I'm with Don--and Ebbie--and probably others. It's nowhere near as cut and dried as you think. That was evident just from the range of sources Don provided--which he never claimed to be an exhaustive list.

It seems to be a common phenomenon on Mudcat--either we're with you 100% or we're part of the enemy.

Recent case in point:   I have made it clear that I believe Bush is the worst president ever in the history of the US, and that, for starting an unnecessary war under false pretenses, and by means of a despicable propaganda campaign, he belongs in the circle of Hell where the Austrian corporal resides.

But because I did not subscribe to the part of the catechism which states that Bush is self-destructive enough to invade Iran when the likelihood is this would cause his impeachment and conviction, I'm "delusional".

But these individuals for some reason take umbrage at being labelled as "on the Looney Left". Gee, can't understand it--they can dish it out, but have a bit of problem taking it. I wonder why that is.


And when asked for actual evidence that contradicted my reasons why Bush will not invade Iran, they had none.

Not complaining--it's actually sadly amusing.

Attitudes like the "delusional" --and yours--make it a miracle that Kerry did as well as he did. The vast majority of Mudcatters are anti-Bush. But the "100% or nothing" attitude which Don notes is definitely a fact--and tends to drive people away from your position.

You guys are truly expert at "friendly fire".